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| 5GHz flocks of Birds All avoiding DFS |
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| Well, since you asked... (O, you're NOT asking. OK NVM) |
Right this exact edited second, the beta-channel version of windows 11 does not support "wi-fi 7" but "Release-Preview" Does is supposed to (mine does not.)
uh, whut? And yes I hope I am mistaken but no. (TBA)
So then my phone and my NIC card could prolly hitch up. I would not know.
Actually, I'm avoiding starting yet another bombastic little blog to do just that:
Hook up the phone as a hotspot, ask my PC to *find* that hotspot.
Well, no joy for 6GHz, it picked the lastest 5ghz channel.
My "Pixel 7" is one of those outer-darkness ones that doesn't do 6ghz, or I need to do some serious reading up. "Blame it on windows" is more convenient but I'm not sure it's true (yet.)
The reading-up part should be about pixel-7 (the barbarian/philistine version, not "Pro,") but the 256gb ordinary one.
Hook up the phone as a hotspot, ask my PC to *find* that hotspot.
Well, no joy for 6GHz, it picked the lastest 5ghz channel.
My "Pixel 7" is one of those outer-darkness ones that doesn't do 6ghz, or I need to do some serious reading up. "Blame it on windows" is more convenient but I'm not sure it's true (yet.)
The reading-up part should be about pixel-7 (the barbarian/philistine version, not "Pro,") but the 256gb ordinary one.
But before I nod off from the boredom, it is becoming increasingly clear that Pixel 7 (My authentic version of one, for here and for now) will not do 6GHz.
period.
All that other fancy-ass crap is irrelevant to me.
I should note I'm on Android 15 vanilla Ice cream, which doesn't even exist yet.
It also does not say if my neighbors use Wi-Fi 6e-6ghz, it's just a lot of names.
I don't think they do but how would I really know?
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| Mr. Jim there, being a diamond expert, should know, but he says we don't really need it, etc etc etc |
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| How reddit knows stuff that no one else apparently knows, is mysterious |
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| Become the hacker-whore of Satan, and he will grant you 6GHz |
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| he Has wifi 6e (congrats) and wants to stick to 5ghz (Instead of fixing 6ghz) This is way too confusing. I've racked Google's brain to find a non-hacked solution. Google is a dry well of (mis) information on the subject. |
and
Once govt agencies monitoring this stuff acquire enough 6ghz monitoring equipment to stick into their vans, Once home internet wifi routers from ISP's can support it, then I suppose it'll magically appear, with Microsoft buffing their nails about how modern they are.
Until then they're dragging their collective feet.
But forget I said that; it's a rant from the depths of a slightly paranoid heart....When in doubt, make it illegal
The Indian Govt has not decided, let's say.
Let's also say that if they made it legal for only certain humans, certain factories, rogue libertines would already have 6ghz routers. Profit losses would happen. How can they monopolize frequencies they don't have control over? (and other wild speculations)
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| no sense in priming that money pump forever. Drop this or that feature, no one'll notice https://www.anandtech.com/show/18921/broadcom-updates-wifi-7-portfolio-with-2nd-generation-connectivity-silicon |
Actually none of this matters; the train of thought is sooo long, so convoluted.
My AX (Wifi 6 router) died a pointless death no one will mourn, and since it wasn't upgradable, I don't feel that bad, it looked deformed.
My replacement router is a way-old router, and it was designed to look older than that, like some 50's classic I was never familiar with.
My Wi-Fi 7 router will , um, (hmm) cost lots less, I hope, than when the previous ones were new.
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| Define "Less" Wait, It's clearly (?) advertised as "Wifi 7" Not "6E" (this is an edit due to something I wrote WAY down) |
Hmm.
Anyway, here's some useful info:
6GHz and "WiFi 7" are NOT the same;
I don't really understand that but there it is.
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| Relatively new find (like, 10 minutes ago) TLDR "...Supports 6GHz, unlike cheaper WiFi 7 routers" |
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| BE3600 • 5 GHz: 2882 Mbps (802.11be) • 2.4 GHz: 688 Mbps (802.11be) |
Can we be bombastic for a second?
Be550 *SEEMS* to me to do 2x2x3 (it's complicated) But since both of my devices are 2x2, that seems to work perfektly for me.
If I'm wrong about the math, Meh.
Be550 *SEEMS* to me to do 2x2x3 (it's complicated) But since both of my devices are 2x2, that seems to work perfektly for me.
If I'm wrong about the math, Meh.
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| 4x4 or 2x2? |
The same article (in the link) says more upper-crust routers do 4x4, which is great (really) but I have no 4x4 routers to talk to, so this works.
" as opposed to the more advanced 4T4R (four transmit, four receive) setup commonly found in high-performance Wi-Fi 6 routers."
Comments are here (The two people buying a BE900 hated it. Everyone else got BE-something-else)
And AC: more speed
And AX (wifi 6) More speed with "Mu-Mimo" (which causes random disconnects and reddit says to disable it.
Actually, they said "MIMU" but I'm interpolating.
Actually, they said "MIMU" but I'm interpolating.
And BE (wifi 7) "MLO"
Most people (including me) couldn't really tell you what mu-mimo is,
or what "MLO" is or if it was/is/will be used.
But to conclude my Point, BE550's 2x2 antennas seem OK.
(How they fit 320mhz into two antennas is beyond me, but I don't sit here thinking about it much. I'd rather have a small island in the 6GHz vicinity (I think that analogy got erased) H.O.W. stuff (they didn't answer my question, but they talked up a storm around it)
(How they fit 320mhz into two antennas is beyond me, but I don't sit here thinking about it much. I'd rather have a small island in the 6GHz vicinity (I think that analogy got erased) H.O.W. stuff (they didn't answer my question, but they talked up a storm around it)
The BE550 range is crap, but s'ok also.
You get the feeling (*I* get the feeling) that "12 stream" routers bristling with antennas are mostly an upsell, but would prolly have better range (due to all their acronyms)
I'd like to know, before I get one, if cheap no-account routers can still do 6GHz easily?? https://dongknows.com/best-wi-fi-6e-routers/ ,
https://dongknows.com/best-five-wi-fi-7-routers/
I feel like I'm in Mexico asking for a public bathroom
("Donde esta el 'escusado'?")
("que?")
("que?")
Asking the locals where the post office (Correo) was, kept getting me directions for the bullfight ring.
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| Because I can't roll "r" |
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| 6e and 6e "new version" whut?? https://dongknows.com/linksys-mr7500-hydra-pro-6e-router-review/ |
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| Fine, add another pot-roast to the pot. I don't feel like I'd be saving any money on 6e. |
A guy has a googled article "Don't waste your money" (O crap, now I gotta go look)
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| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9pPgWR3dQ4 "Don't waste your money" (the guy saying that actually wants you to buy 6, not 6e or 7) |
Elitist technophiles:
It's a thing, at least in my head.....
It's a thing, at least in my head.....
No one ever sang "I left my heart... In Carson City"
But yeah, it's nice to believe, like Disney indoctrinates.
But yeah, it's nice to believe, like Disney indoctrinates.
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I just did a test of my WiFi 5 on Ethernet.
900/80.
What more could a guy want?
900/80.
What more could a guy want?
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| *Ethernet* connection @old 1G router |
I seriously need to blow my Byte-allowance wad
to see what *my* wifi 5 measures up to.
See me in around an hour...
I don't have all the insider-tweaks you all do; this is boiler-plate router settings.
I also wanna rant that I have no "Access control" except to just turn the damn thing off when I'm not using it.
I also wanna rant that I have no "Access control" except to just turn the damn thing off when I'm not using it.
Well anyway, Reviewing
- TP-Link? Toilet paper.
- Linksys? They became awful.
- EERO??!! It's overpriced.
Picture below: Useless breakable wings
It might be a great router but I haven't the space to guard the delicate wings.
It might be a great router but I haven't the space to guard the delicate wings.
- they hook them up for a test, then unhook them (and they get sold on Ebay?)
- and reviewers get stuff free, and whatever you ask it'll end up being the one that costs the most, or Asus, whichever is greater.
- Half the sites reviewing routers get a commission on stuff you buy, and I don't know if commissions get larger with the price you pay but I'd think so.
- Whatever a router does NOW will be improved or totally KILLED with firmware updates.
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| "Be800/BE550"? MLO is Not wifi 7 (o.......k(?) |
Wait, so, uh,
MLO and 6GHZ are not necessarily "wifi 7" so what is?
Geez? (I'd be pissed if I knew more about it)
Geez? (I'd be pissed if I knew more about it)
(This entire subject is unbelievably complicated, devolving into numbers and specs...)
My unanswered question is, if "Qualcomm 1220 pro" is so notoriously bad,
My unanswered question is, if "Qualcomm 1220 pro" is so notoriously bad,
did they replace it, is there a successor or a better-working equivalent?"
Or do wifi-5 users remain in outer-darknesses for the next year or so.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TpLink/comments/16p22rp/archer_be900_be24000_mlo/
https://www.reddit.com/r/TpLink/comments/16p22rp/archer_be900_be24000_mlo/
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| These pictures look Microscopic on my phone; apologies and please click to read. |
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| They've even got a chart with Pictures, if you'll google it (I'm no puppet) But abandon hope, ye with less than $1K (unless I can edit this) They can make chipsets (Impressive.) Where are the routers? |
but if I may summarize:
620 (be550, Linksys Velop Pro 7)
620 (be550, Linksys Velop Pro 7)
1220 "scarlet A"
1620 richer than God (BE95)
If you
don't care about MLO
don't care about MLO
don't care if you have 320mhz bandwidth
don't know much about streams
THEN f'n buy whatever
But otherwise freeze in your attic (sweat bullets?) poring over many quaint and curious volumes of impenetrable lore.
But otherwise freeze in your attic (sweat bullets?) poring over many quaint and curious volumes of impenetrable lore.
All this reading makes me very hungry.
Not that you asked (freebies and commissions, remember?)
But a guy should have SOME idea where to start:
Not that you asked (freebies and commissions, remember?)
But a guy should have SOME idea where to start:
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| https://dongknows.com/tp-link-deco-be95-wi-fi-7-mesh-system-review/ |
does "770" at 6GHZ. Now all's I gotta do, is figgur out "AX vs AXE"
So the guy didn't test wifi7 on BE550 or the specs in my head are way wrong and this needs rewriting quick.
F'n Wi-Fi changes monthly, with the wind, with whatever-the-hell Apple wants.
Don't ask "why?"
My phone is 6e, my PC is wifi 7, ...
Just, ya can't keep buying shit, ya buy stuff hoping it'll last til Wi-Fi 8.
Don't ask "why?"
My phone is 6e, my PC is wifi 7, ...
Just, ya can't keep buying shit, ya buy stuff hoping it'll last til Wi-Fi 8.
Actually, I was only googling whether or not 320MHz is truly achievable on the BE550 and whether or not Speedtests take notice, or is 320MHz a sort of a scam...
Something to google (I'll be back)
I wonder,
Something to google (I'll be back)
I wonder,
in what scenario do 900mbps-download-people
benefit from 320mhz-bandwidth?
But I can wonder til doomsday, I doubt I'll get an unbiased answer.
But I can wonder til doomsday, I doubt I'll get an unbiased answer.
"Why?" vs "4Gig download speed!!"
Lan-to-Lan it sounds fantastic. (I think)
Lan-to-Lan it sounds fantastic. (I think)
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| Streaming from where?? Downloading from Who? But nevermind, I kind of doubt Cable and phone companies will sit on their asses for long, they'll have a 5Gbps tier soon, no doubt. It's just, a shock at first and then the possibilities reveal themselves |
Editing in that Linksys Velop Pro 7 and the TP-Link BE550 appear (on the chart) to be extremely close, so assuming all features work:
(MLO)
(6GHZ)
(I-forgot)
Then it comes down to which BOB (bottom-of-barrel) router is cheapest.
Then it comes down to which BOB (bottom-of-barrel) router is cheapest.
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| Tired, need to "go"? RTG? Here. Fucket. |
"Asus" has more elitist gravitas, But I haven't researched them much yet.
The wise man walked by and announced, "Wifi 7 uses a new kind of compression technology,"
The wise man walked by and announced, "Wifi 7 uses a new kind of compression technology,"
Which made me wonder about my wake-up nightmare the night before:
It LOOKS faster, it almost has the same route, But will it be the same, only you won't know how to use it?? (The City Bus system, Lines 4Q2 and XE5)
Will you just get lost????
It LOOKS faster, it almost has the same route, But will it be the same, only you won't know how to use it?? (The City Bus system, Lines 4Q2 and XE5)
Will you just get lost????
??
?
Consider (Grasshopper,)
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| Well, no, uh, some routers have only three streams. Some do NOT have "6GHZ" and they aren't mentioning "MLO" at all. So the only thing left is "QAM" You'll pay zillions for "QAM"? |
I want my 6GHz.
"Chews Wisely," the gurus say.
Qualcomm vs Broadcom (Kia vs Lexus?? I would not mind a chipset comparison)
A person might pick a chipset because of the real nice blurb, and then seek out a router containing that chipset.
The rest of said router is plastic and power supply...
A guy *wonders*, ya know?
"TP-Link BE95" has a qualcomm network pro 1620 chipset.
That is no ringing endorsement for the 1620.
Do upper-crust types lean towards "Broadcom"??
Lotsa research to do.
"TP-Link BE95" has a qualcomm network pro 1620 chipset.
That is no ringing endorsement for the 1620.
Do upper-crust types lean towards "Broadcom"??
Lotsa research to do.
So.... "Qualcomm"?
My choice of processor:1620 (because, y-not) is only on Be95?
Is there no snootier model 2 b had?
But I did a reddit on BE95, hacking and slashing through the jungle of "Backhaul"
But I did a reddit on BE95, hacking and slashing through the jungle of "Backhaul"
and the guy seemed pretty happy, he just pointed out Microwave ovens are natural predators of WiFi.
Re-re-editing:
Re-re-editing:
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| Around 100 cheaper than Upper-crusty ones. |
Offline setup, anyone?
Do ALL (non-hacked) routers require an app (an online account)?
Do you need internet to initialize it (to get it ready for the internet?)
Do you need internet to initialize it (to get it ready for the internet?)
To put it more paranoidly:
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| Paranoid and super pissed (or drunk) |
So then, among two or three similarly priced routers, the one that is easiest to set up offline would win, but unfortunately, uhm, they don't exactly broadcast this info.
https://linksys-wifi.com/linksys-velop-ax4200-setup/ OK it's an older model, but there is hope.
TP-Link, hopeless (see the other link)
TP-Link, hopeless (see the other link)
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| Whether this is true on Velop 7 Pro, I don't know |
This whole App thing kind of reeks....it's a detail easily overlooked, witness all the really mad people in the return line at Best Buy (wherever.) These people type professionally, bandy acronyms about like there's some fire-sale on acronyms, but they neglected to investigate the teeny phone app.
So my new bottom line is, Velop pro 7.
(or that fine-looking Asus, the BE96U, with features I'll never use in a zillion years, but it comes in below "GT-BE98" so I'm making the conservative choice.)
(or that fine-looking Asus, the BE96U, with features I'll never use in a zillion years, but it comes in below "GT-BE98" so I'm making the conservative choice.)
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| "You're taking a big risk" |
Random picture that seemed to fit the situation
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| "I've really gotta go" or some random front page news nobody (you choose) |
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